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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: new look to some guns Reply with quote

I finally got a scope for my KJW M700 and have it dead on at 100' in my back yard. It can go farther but the wind has been really bad and blows most of my shots off because my yard is so open. I also added a stock shell holder but the only inert ammo I have is .223 (it still looks good though). I got a bipod but its to small to fit around the barrel so I either need to get one that fits a larger barrel or find one that mounts to the sling attachment.

The only thing I added to the saw is a 10 round belt of linked 223 ammo, it actually fit in like a glove when I opened the top of the gun and makes it look bad ass. The 10 rounds were attached to a belt of 100 and I will admit when I attached the 100 rounds to the gun I slung it over my shoulder and ran around upstairs yelling get some with the gun in one hand ammo in the other.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

very sexy!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Omg are those real pulas (bullets) JK LOL, hey any idea where i can get something to hold my .38 for my revolver, airsoft one lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

damb. like them both Smile i really like the saw
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

You need some 7.62 NATO inerts. Get those in the SAW. Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

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You need some 7.62 NATO inerts. Get those in the SAW. Razz
why? SAWs use .223/5.56 NATO
it wouldn't look right to have .308s in the SAW

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

the 7.62 would not fit either, the .223 rounds fit in so well that there is no need to secure them in place

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Sorry, my mistake, I thought the SAW used 7.62.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

M240's do, but the 249 is 5.56

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

I'm Pretty sure m60s use 7.62 But I'm 100% sure the saw dosen't

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

just a heads up idez. some of the guys on this forum are ex military or even active duty, so they know what they are talking about.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Idez315 wrote:
I'm Pretty sure m60s use 7.62 But I'm 100% sure the saw dosen't
What exactly do you think a saw is? It stands for Squad Automatic Weapon and the m249 isn't the only one.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

two words -- future weapons-- watch it (i am 100% sure you are wrong)... I shot a light in my back yard with the KJW and it broke the glass, i didn't think that would happen.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

I couldn't picture myself lugging around the full stock saw; the para, maybe. It's just too long for to shoulder fire.

The M240G is a 7.62 MMG mainly USMC, I don't know if USAR has a ground version of this. I'm sure yoroiden can answer that. It's set to replace the aging M60 (also 7.62 as has been mentioned before)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

The M240G is used by US Army Rangers.


It's also classed as a "GPMG" and mounted in tanks. Rock solid support weapon, just so damned heavy and awkward.


The SAW in real life is total junk.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

My first game with the SAW was in September and i didn't really have a problem with the weight because i was still in shape from the summer. At the end of the game i picked up my m4 and thought damn this sucker feels like a toy, its much lighter then the 12 pound plus saw. The next day my chest and arms killed, total PROPS to those who lug this bitch around for real in the military every day.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Actually the M240G is NOT used by the Rangers. The two US ground versions are the M240B and the M240G. The M240B is the Army variant, and the M240G is the Marine version. The only real difference is that the G does not have a handguard/heatshield (A real Marine will only touch a hot barrel once, so they claim).

Some of the confusion is due to some units taking vehicle mounted M240s and using them in the ground role via 'dismount' kits. For a week in Iraq I used an M240C (afv version) adapted to a quasi-M240G (had the stock and grip, but still used the vehicle charging cable, had improvised sights, and no bipod).


Anyway, the M249 SAW (the only official squad automatic in US military service) shoots belted 5.56 NATO ammo (it can take M16 mags, but is very unreliable that way). Also known as the FN Minimi. It is unreliable, and should be replaced ASAP.

The M60 GPMG shoots 7.62 NATO ammo. It is very reliable in later versions (the early ones would literally vibrate itself apart unless safetywired together). The M60E4 variant should replace the M249 SAW immediately, as it is only slightly heavier, but is shorter, can fire longer between barrel changes, and shoots the potent 7.62 NATO.

The M240 also shoots 7.62 NATO, and is the US version of the FN MAG GMPG. It is the official replacement for the M60 GPMG. It has a high rate of fire, but is heavier and less reliable than the M60 it replaced.


A full stock on the M249 isn't too bad. I've fired mustang's CA SAW from the shoulder with little trouble.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Sorry, the M240B. You are correct - I messed up the designation as I'm used to talking to Marines.

Thanks for firing up the google and clarifying.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

Not to confuse anyone, but we forgot about the Mk48Mod0.
Which is, in essence, a M249 SAW LMG scaled/converted from 5.56mm to 7.62mm. Which is also set to replace the M60E4.

The Mk48 weighs in at ~18.6lbs and still shorter than the standard configuration M249 or the Mk43Mod 0/1.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: new look to some guns Reply with quote

I didn't forget about it. I didn't mention it since it's just a variant of the existing weapon. It's really not a different weapon, just an upgrade.

Besides, it's only around in small numbers, and hasn't even been adopted by the military as it's still in testing. Just because a weapon is supposed to replace something doesn't mean it will (anyone remember the M14A1 LMG?).

Since I personally knew 3 men who died directly due to faulty FN machine guns (2 with the M249 and 1 with the M240), I'm not looking foward to anything from Fabrique Nationale.

Then again, I'm not in SOCOM, and their needs are different than mine. Like how the M4 carbine is suitable for use in regular Army units, but not for the missions SOCOM conducts.

EDIT: I just read that on January 9th, 2007, DoD awarded a $5,195,100 contract to US Ordnance to supply the Army with new M60E4 machineguns and parts. Things are looking up.

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