Ah, cool. Me and my family travle around greece every year. Ive been littlerly every where. lol. Did you live with family down in greece? Or was it just a LONG vacation?

Well, right now, i have a crosman pulse R74, and a spring pistol. But i looked around after i found out about tm, and found a nice UTG AK-74 Revolutionary AEG Airsoft Rifle Black, and an M4-A1 RIS
Limited Anniversary Edition
ICS. What do u think? Good choices?


Edit: for Lane Atomic; Thanks for the imformation. It helps to get information from the pros.

no it was a move. school, home, friends, everything.

stay away from the crossman crap. save your money and go tm, ca, or ics. trust me. cause if your knock off stuff breaks there will be not parts to replace it.

As if you want to get a pistol get KJW,KWC/KWA, or WE, you can get TM or WA (Western Arms), but TM and WA are expensive and take HFC-134a (Freon)...Which is about 13 bucks a can, but you can any of the 3 listed above KJW KWC/KWA or WE Those are capable of handling green gas and as well as propane, WE you can use Green gas (HFC-22), or Red gas (ET-1600), propane too, Ill say stay away from springers Green gas is cheap only 7 bucks a 1100ML bottle will give you about 50 Mag fills do not overfill a mag their standard time is 3 seconds no more no less, If you get a HI-cap like kWA M93r the charge time is 6 seconds because it has big magazine, If you get any of the Japanese pistol, Tokyo Marui or Western Arms be prepared to spend bucks on Freon...WA guns can handle green gas, but with a upgrade, and as for TM, newer models can but in temperature less than 85F (Unless you want your slide to shatter) Old type of TM guns wont handle green gas, I say DO NOT Ever USE RED GAS On these Pistols Unless you're using WE, it is full metal, Anything else but this, or if the gun isnt upgraded and you use red gas say bye bye to it...NON Upgraded, ABS Plastic and Metal mixed guns will not be able to handle Red Gas if you want to use Red Gas use it with Full Metal pistols only...If you break gun that wont handle the Red Gas, and while its still on warranty you wont get a replacement...Because you're the one who is responsible for which type of gas you use, each dealer say "We Will not be held responsible for damages caused by Red Gas".

I hope you find this informative.

1. I'm not a pro, just consolidating a bunch of information I learned. But thanks for the compliment.

2. Freon and HFC-134a are different chemicals. They have different compositions. The only similarity is they're both used for refridgeration, and even so, Freon isn't used anymore. AFAIK it's illegal to use due to the "greenhouse gasses."

My bad...many people still say HFC-134a is Freon

Since you guys are talking about pistols i mite as well chime in. Is there any high-end electric pistols, or does gas pistols own. Also which gun have a good balance of velocity, durability, and range, any suggestions? Any preference to certain gases. Its alright if there personal opinions, all feedback helps

tm makes decent ebbs. and read Michaelv's prv post for the answer to the rest of your question.

IMHO there's no such thing as a good Electric Blow-Back. TM recently came out with something called an AEP, which functions similarly to an AEG, only uses a battery similar to what you would find in a cell phone, and afaik lower powered. Also, they are non-blowback. AEP stands for Automatic Electric Pistol.

oops. thats what i meant. i was going to mention the tm g18c and the tm usp 45...but i figured he should do some research.

cool, hopefully chris and i will get the right equipment before the Summit Lake event this sunday. thanks again for the info. (chris thanks you, too)

LaneAtomic wrote:

TM recently came out with something called an AEP, which functions similarly to an AEG, only uses a battery similar to what you would find in a cell phone...

the MP7 is an AEP. that's the only thing that comes to mind for AEP. everything else is EBB

The first TM AEPs (Airsoft Electric Pistol, they are not EBBs) were the Glock 18C and Beretta 93R. Those were the first two true AEPs.

oh yeah, forgot about those. also isn't tm coming out with an aep mk23

They just came out with a USP .40, but that's getting a bit off topic.

Sry i havnt replied back sooner. My father was in the hospital. He had to have emergency sergury. I was in the hospital for two days straight. Again Sry. But, thats a diffrent topic. You guys are really pros. I can see why you guys have such a good rep. With out all your information, i would make a lot of mistakes in purchaseing my gear. Thanks too all of you. Ill see what i can muster now with all of your info. Do any of you live near hoffman estates, deer crossing?

Most of the active members live not far outside of Hoffman, but I do and I think birdman lives there too.

i live right by hoffman high school. im more then happy to let you take a look at my gear and weapons if you want to get a feel for some stuff

Ahhhh, cool. Thats nice to hear i have some players next to me. lol.

Thanks for the offer birdman. Ill take you up on that soon.

just send me a PM or hit me up on AIM with a day or so notice so i can get everything ready

sounds good. thanks b-man. Ill get back to u soon.

I also hope to see all of you at the annuall spring offensive!