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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

I prefer woodland camo to the generic military camo that most people use. I wanted to share my favorite camo retailer, Mossy Oak. There equipment is usually used for hunting, but if you like to hide, and its a pretty long game, this camo would be ideal for a scout/sniper or rifleman. Alot of the patterns blend in excellently. In paticular, I like Bottomland, Obsession, and Break-Up. Check Mossy Oak out.

www.mossyoak.com/default2.asp

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

So you like more of the hunting camo? I think the reason people use the army camo is for realism.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Not only that but the majority of hunting camo is terrain specific, whereas miltary woodland is good in a variety of environments. Hunting camo can work very well in the places it's made to be in, but use it out of that specific place, then it's advantage is negated. That's why I switched to Multicam, as it works reasonably well in nearly every environment.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

You do have a point. Army camo is more versatile, but woodland might work in some situations. Mossy Oaks sells multicamo too, you can look around for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Not that I would use it in airsoft, the Shadow Grass looks pretty cool.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

hunting cammo is also made to fool an anmials eyes i dont know if it will work the same on a person.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

mustangpwr wrote:
hunting cammo is also made to fool an anmials eyes i dont know if it will work the same on a person.
It might work, from a distance, but I understand. Animal's eyes are alot different from ours. Close up, you could see the guy, but it still blended in well. Maybe this camo isn't practical enough for an airsoft situation. You have to admit though, this stuff owns for hunting.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

yea but airsoft isant a distance game, and hunting camo is how you can tell if someone is either new to the game, or cheap i guess you can say, i cant think of another word to decribe it

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Most players don't use hunting camo because airsoft is a military simulation and they use what various armies use. The most common is a woodland BDU, but more and more players are switching over to digital camo and mulitcamo. Anyways, I bet you already knew that.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Oh contrare! I've played in plenty of games, and every time I go to one I always, always see experienced, intelligent airsofters wearing this stuff. And it works wonders up close and far away. At least from my pov.

But like SureShot stated, the reason why I use military camo is because of realism, and because I get it for free from my dad.

But I think that that 'hunter's camo' works great. Especially in Autumn.

From my own personnal experience: I was wearing some of that winter "hunter's camo" around some aspens, and my dad said that I totally disappeard. He actually had to ask me to move in order to see me, and he already knew where I was.

*EDIT: The players that I am talking about wear that Obsession stuff. I think.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

dude, i was at tukey shoot and four guys on thier team had mossy camo, and they made it work. one guy has a guile (some spellcheck me on that) and he rocked it man. all in all, do as u please. i have seen guys with pink urban camo and a pink xm8.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Speaking of camo I am thinking of ordering a guile suit, I am more of a sniper and I need to be hiden. Why need a bunker or somthing to shield you from BB's if they don't know you are there?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

Hunting camo can indeed work, and work very well, but as I posted above most of it is location specific (not all). If you're in that location, then more power to ya. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to wear deep woods camo in light forest, go for it. That just means that you'll have to choose your positions a bit better to match your surroundings if you're trying to stay concealed.

The advantage with the military style woodland is that it works fairly well in most wooded areas. If you want the hunting camo, go for it. If you want military camo, more power to you.

Now as far as ghillies go, it's not going to protect you. It may conceal you, but you can still get hit. There is a difference between concealment and cover. Concealment just provides visual protection. Cover can physically protect you, and visually protect. Best would be to conceal yourself in a covered position. I would also suggest getting in more games before taking the ghille plunge, and taking note of the environments you play in. This is because ghillies are VERY environment AND seasonal specific. An autumn, woods suit is not going to be very effective in late spring ("I see a dead bush, wait, it's got a gun! Shoot it!").

But, you know what? It's not my money. If that's what you want to get, then by all means, go for it.

As a side note on this camo discussion, it's interesting to see all these different camo patterns around. In 'Nam, the SOG (black-ops, cross border guys) found the most effective camo was not ERDL leaf style, not Tiger Stripe, or any other pre-designed camo. No, the best thing they found was plain old OD green Jungle Fatigues, with swirls of black spraypaint.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

For airsoft, in all general purposes, no camo truly works as it is supposed to. I'm not saying they don't work, I'm simply saying their true purpose is mostly lost on the airsoft field.


Most camouflages (from the military aspect) were designed to work at ranges of that average shooting conflict of the time, or for specific regions - for example, the typical "woodland" camouflage pattern was developed with more of a focus on the woods of Europe, as it was assumed that the next major conflict would occur there. It was later developed to be a little more universal, but the theory still holds - it is a non-consistent pattern intended to break up one's general shape as the human eye perceives it.

All camouflage types work on this theory.

Hunting camouflage works on this theory as well, but it is more focused on what animals can perceive over humans - most animals don't have the same level of depth perception as a human, so many of the patterns are fairly flat and photo-realistic, as it confuses an animal more - this is also why hunting camouflages have more specific patterns to them for certain areas, or can be bright orange with sticks drawn all over them, and work just fine.

As long as you learn camouflage and concealment, as Yoroiden pointed out, the pattern is not as impactful as learning to disguise yourself in your surroundings - using a similar color pallete to the terrain happens to work rather well in assisting you in your goals.

I could go into a long winded discussion of camouflage evolution, human eye/brain perception, color shifting, macro and micro patterns, theories and principals, but that's a lot of long winded nonsense only gear whores like to know.

The basic sum of it all is - if it's what you want to use, you find it works decently well for you, and you're enjoying yourself - rock out.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

It just depends on the situation, but I understand that Milsim is about making the airsoft game as realistic as possible, and therefore, most peaople use digital or multi-camo. But Like Knight said, its a matter of preference.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

This is really cool, Im learning a lot of stuff I would have never thought of on my own.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

There was one team around here, actually around Yorkville if I am correct (Toggle correct me if I am wrong re: Section 8 ) that specifically used a hunting camo as part of their uniform requirements, and when they were playing as indigenous forces for their scenarios.

When their website was up, they had a lot of excellent action shots. Surprising, they blended in extremely well with the terrain where they were at.

The camo they had was not the typical 'big pictures of leaves' typical hunting camo like the stuff put out by mossy oak. If I remember right, it looked more like a tiger stripe. (I wish I saved that website)

If I can find pictures, I can try to post them or at least get you all the links.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

baupdeth wrote:
There was one team around here, actually around Yorkville if I am correct (Toggle correct me if I am wrong re: Section 8 ) that specifically used a hunting camo as part of their uniform requirements, and when they were playing as indigenous forces for their scenarios.

When their website was up, they had a lot of excellent action shots. Surprising, they blended in extremely well with the terrain where they were at.

The camo they had was not the typical 'big pictures of leaves' typical hunting camo like the stuff put out by mossy oak. If I remember right, it looked more like a tiger stripe. (I wish I saved that website)


Correct, it was section 8 - they have long since disbanded but they were a cool team. They used a tigerstipe type of pattern that was a hunting pattern to give them a distinctive Russian kind of look.

I can't seem to find a pic, either....

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

www.s8airsoft.com/fees_rentals.php
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Mossy Oak Reply with quote

I think they have a different website. My older brother's friend was on the team and I remember their team logo being a Jester. That one looks like it's in the UK. I think the local Section Eight's website is no longer online. Was it www.section-eight.net ?

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