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admin H.E.A.T.


Joined: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 1910 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL (USA)
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Oh I think he would as long as the other team had them too. They have been using tennis balls for flashbangs before so I don't see why he wouldn't allow them
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Atlas H.E.A.T.


Joined: Sep 18, 2006 Posts: 529 Location: Algonquin, Il
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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yeah, could you imagine if a lot of people had them. at the end of the day when none of can see down those halls it would be lit like high noon.it would be a lot of fun.
and they did not use tennis balls last time, i don't think.
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Joined: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 1910 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL (USA)
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Oh I didn't go last time, but the games that I went to they were using tennis balls.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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yeah they talked about using them, but decided not too. but if we bust out the flashqubes, then i'm sure everyone will be down with them
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philapean_21 Small Poster


Joined: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Cissna Park, IL
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Can't find the lumens for the magicubes, but most vintage flashblubs produce an average of 50,000 lumens/sec.
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Lucky

Joined: Jan 22, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Zeeland, MI
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Hey, I was wondering what your opinion would be on a couple things philipean.
Do you think the cube would still go off inside a specially made safe-t bang. I can make some that have the bottom machined out to hold a cube. Then I can put flash ports on the sides. Im sure I can have one done in a couple days, I just need dimensions on a flash cube. Let me know what you think, and if you can, find some calipers or a ruler and measure a cube.
Thanks alot
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philapean_21 Small Poster


Joined: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Cissna Park, IL
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Yeah sure that be really neat. I only have a measureing tape so I dont know how accurate it will be, expecially when your going to machine something for it.(id suggest to just go on ebay and buy some) But here are some rough dimensions of the cube: 1 1/8" x 1 1/8" x 1 3/8" (length x width x height).
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admin H.E.A.T.


Joined: Jan 06, 2005 Posts: 1910 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL (USA)
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Are you able to remove the flash bulbs from the cube? If so, that idea to use a flashbang container would probably work without restricting the light
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Lucky

Joined: Jan 22, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Zeeland, MI
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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What I was thinking was just milling out some large flash ports on the sides (roughly 3/4" dia.).
The primers that we use also provide a little flash. Im just worried there wont be enough shock when its enclosed in the bang.
How easily do they go off? Or I could keep the flash port that might provide enough pressure/shock to make it flash. Who knows,
let me know what you guys think. Im sitting in a machine shop right now lol :). Heres a picture of some I made:
i22.photobucket.com/al...tFB006.jpg
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Gh0stRaven Large Poster


Joined: Apr 29, 2006 Posts: 171
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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looks like the velcro is getting burned by the primer(?). they look great. where would the magicubes be inserted? would one end be a twist off cap?
just an observation, those ports dont look like it would let enough light out from a magicube. those ports look like they're 1/4"; i'm just saying that they look like 1/4". i don't have anything to scale it with. or are those just for reference for what they would look like?
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Lucky

Joined: Jan 22, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Zeeland, MI
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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The wholes are just for regular pressure ports. They're just under 1/4" and just over 6mm (perfect for bbs).
I'll probably do something over 1/2, maybe around 3/4 to let enough light out. The holes will be pretty large though.
Im most likely going to machine a cap to put on the bottom and it will be inserted through the bottom obviously. Im
not sure If I should leave a little play in the hole so the cube gets shocked a little when it hits the ground. How easily
do they go off? Should I leave a little room for it to move around?
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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apperebntly they go off mighty easily, you should make it nice and tight so that if your running around it doesnt bounce in the tube and cause it to go off
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Gh0stRaven Large Poster


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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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if the cubes go off very easily. nice and tight should do nicely. like birdman said it would not go off while carrying it. when it's nice and tight inside the shock from saft bang should transfer directly to the cube and set if off.
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philapean_21 Small Poster


Joined: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Cissna Park, IL
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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The magicubes are really sensitive depending on how they land, but no more than a 10 foot toss to set them off. Those gernades look great, but i dont know if they will go off if you have them in those. My advice is to just buy some on ebay so you can see for yourself how they were made because its really hard to explain.( Just got 21 for 8 bucks) Havnt been able to experiment with them lately because i ran out so im just going to wait for the next batch to arrive. Ill try to keep you guys updated.
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...:IT&ih=008
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Lucky

Joined: Jan 22, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Zeeland, MI
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Thanks alot. Let me know if you come up with any ideas.
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LaneAtomic Massive Poster


Joined: Apr 12, 2006 Posts: 340 Location: Lake Zurich, IL
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Not to revive dead topics or anything, but here's an idea:
Cut out oblong or "fluted" style ports, and rig it somehow to use a pin to pop the primer inside. If you read up the article was saying that you could use a small pin or something similar in one part of it to set it off. Would eliminate the risk of it not going off in a toss and you can make them really sturdy.  I'm sure it wouldn't be hard at all to make it so it was a timed pin, as well (just use a spring of some sort that as it uncoils it will push the pin in, similar to the grenades someone [toggle?] has)
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Lucky

Joined: Jan 22, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Zeeland, MI
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Magicubes as flash "gernades"? |
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Ill have a central port down the middle. That way the blast and little winged shape projectile in the primer it self will set it off. All I need is some cubes to try this whole theory out. Im a little short on cash right now, so itll probably be one of those summer projects.
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